Sandi Toksvig takes the ABC down a peg or two...
,,, And she will scream & scream until she is sick!
Gareth Roberts in The Spectator writes:
Has Justin Welby met his match in Sandi Toksvig? The entertainer has sent an open letter to the Archbishop of Canterbury, complaining about his attempts to compromise with African bishops and avoid a showdown at the Lambeth Conference on the issue of same-sex marriage. The gist of it is: ‘Even though I don’t believe in God, I’m rarely going to attend my local church again’.
This letter, and the swift reply to it from Justin Welby, tell us quite a lot about the relative standing of the CofE and what we are now supposed to call, as Sandi does, ‘LGBTQ+ people’.
St Sandi’s letter to the Cantabrians is a masterpiece of faux-chummy passive-aggression, gratingly twee and self-satisfied. She addresses Welby as ‘Justin’ throughout (I am grateful that we were at least spared her saying ‘Archbish’), and it’s written in an unbearable jolly, golly-gosh, niminy-piminy, ‘cave girls, it’s Matron!’ vernacular. Just nice old Sandi asking the old A of C for a chin-wobble over a mug of froth. I am both an atheist and a homosexual of long standing, and I found it insufferable.
This matey timbre conceals, not very well, some unpleasant stuff. Mentioning suicide statistics here and appearing to lay the blame at Welby's door, as Toksvig does, is a bit much. [Hasn't this tired old argument been debunked more times than anyone cares to remember anyway?]
Toksvig also dives into what the Old Testament says or doesn’t say about homosexuality. It's an astonishingly confident display of rabbinical scholarship from the woman who played Ethel in the eighties children's TV show No.73. She informs Welby that the story of Sodom and Gomorrah ‘is not about condemning loving same sex couples but about sexual violence and the importance of kindness to strangers’. Really?
Toksvig's suggestion that God is probably fine with homosexuality also glosses over an important fact: the Judaeo-Christian faith explicitly proscribed it as part of the basic deal of heterosexual monogamy that marked the religion out from much of the rest of the ancient world. We may well not like this, we may consider it ridiculous, from a vanished iron age of strange cult edicts, but to deny its very existence is simply daft.
Jesus ‘doesn’t mention sexuality at all’ apparently, according to Toksvig, which will come as a surprise to Bible readers who remember him reinforcing the commandment that thou shalt not commit adultery, and his advice to pluck out your eye if you lust after someone who isn’t your (heterosexual) spouse. [Try reading Matthew 19!]
Toksvig describes herself as a humanist who believes in ‘the fundamental goodness of people’. Well that’s all right then. All settled. How lovely. It takes a special kind of presumption to lecture the Archbishop of Canterbury on sin. Who knew that the riddles of the darkness of the human heart would be answered obiter dictum by a former host of Radio 4’s The News Quiz?
She ends by mentioning that she’s doing a church fundraiser for Ukraine, which reminds me of the admirable Christian rule (though hardly ever adhered to) that good works advertised in public don’t count. Still, for Toksvig, the reward for her moral stance is not treasure in heaven but some approving quote tweets calling her a national blooming treasure.
And how quick Welby was to reply, bowing and scraping and insisting he is happy to meet Toksvig for a coffee. This tells you where the power and status really lies in this conversation. What a soft target the C of E has become. It makes you wonder if Toksvig has directed her anger elsewhere, perhaps by penning an open letter on gender ideology, or taking on other religious leaders when it comes to their attitudes towards homosexuality? It seems unlikely.
Toksvig's open letter is a safe and silly rebellion against a creed on the back foot, with no chance of being snapped back at, even. For the Toksvigs of this world, people who are strangely fond of accusing others of living in the past, the old establishment still rules: it is forever October 1978. Dear God, hearken to the prayer of this old sinner, and deliver us from them.
Has Justin Welby met his match in Sandi Toksvig? The entertainer has sent an open letter to the Archbishop of Canterbury, complaining about his attempts to compromise with African bishops and avoid a showdown at the Lambeth Conference on the issue of same-sex marriage. The gist of it is: ‘Even though I don’t believe in God, I’m rarely going to attend my local church again’.
This letter, and the swift reply to it from Justin Welby, tell us quite a lot about the relative standing of the CofE and what we are now supposed to call, as Sandi does, ‘LGBTQ+ people’.
St Sandi’s letter to the Cantabrians is a masterpiece of faux-chummy passive-aggression, gratingly twee and self-satisfied. She addresses Welby as ‘Justin’ throughout (I am grateful that we were at least spared her saying ‘Archbish’), and it’s written in an unbearable jolly, golly-gosh, niminy-piminy, ‘cave girls, it’s Matron!’ vernacular. Just nice old Sandi asking the old A of C for a chin-wobble over a mug of froth. I am both an atheist and a homosexual of long standing, and I found it insufferable.
This matey timbre conceals, not very well, some unpleasant stuff. Mentioning suicide statistics here and appearing to lay the blame at Welby's door, as Toksvig does, is a bit much. [Hasn't this tired old argument been debunked more times than anyone cares to remember anyway?]
Toksvig also dives into what the Old Testament says or doesn’t say about homosexuality. It's an astonishingly confident display of rabbinical scholarship from the woman who played Ethel in the eighties children's TV show No.73. She informs Welby that the story of Sodom and Gomorrah ‘is not about condemning loving same sex couples but about sexual violence and the importance of kindness to strangers’. Really?
Toksvig's suggestion that God is probably fine with homosexuality also glosses over an important fact: the Judaeo-Christian faith explicitly proscribed it as part of the basic deal of heterosexual monogamy that marked the religion out from much of the rest of the ancient world. We may well not like this, we may consider it ridiculous, from a vanished iron age of strange cult edicts, but to deny its very existence is simply daft.
Jesus ‘doesn’t mention sexuality at all’ apparently, according to Toksvig, which will come as a surprise to Bible readers who remember him reinforcing the commandment that thou shalt not commit adultery, and his advice to pluck out your eye if you lust after someone who isn’t your (heterosexual) spouse. [Try reading Matthew 19!]
Toksvig describes herself as a humanist who believes in ‘the fundamental goodness of people’. Well that’s all right then. All settled. How lovely. It takes a special kind of presumption to lecture the Archbishop of Canterbury on sin. Who knew that the riddles of the darkness of the human heart would be answered obiter dictum by a former host of Radio 4’s The News Quiz?
She ends by mentioning that she’s doing a church fundraiser for Ukraine, which reminds me of the admirable Christian rule (though hardly ever adhered to) that good works advertised in public don’t count. Still, for Toksvig, the reward for her moral stance is not treasure in heaven but some approving quote tweets calling her a national blooming treasure.
And how quick Welby was to reply, bowing and scraping and insisting he is happy to meet Toksvig for a coffee. This tells you where the power and status really lies in this conversation. What a soft target the C of E has become. It makes you wonder if Toksvig has directed her anger elsewhere, perhaps by penning an open letter on gender ideology, or taking on other religious leaders when it comes to their attitudes towards homosexuality? It seems unlikely.
Toksvig's open letter is a safe and silly rebellion against a creed on the back foot, with no chance of being snapped back at, even. For the Toksvigs of this world, people who are strangely fond of accusing others of living in the past, the old establishment still rules: it is forever October 1978. Dear God, hearken to the prayer of this old sinner, and deliver us from them.
How long. oh Lord, before Welby and the like recognise that failing to speak with clarity and honesty on this issue will never win anyone for Christ. Rather it is literally failing to be kind in every way, because it is obscuring the truth. Obscuring the truth in this way is not "kind", it is, in reality, cruel.
As the CDF teaches:
Although the particular inclination of the homosexual person is not a sin, it is a more or less strong tendency ordered toward an intrinsic moral evil; and thus the inclination itself must be seen as an objective disorder.
Therefore special concern and pastoral attention should be directed toward those who have this condition, lest they be led to believe that the living out of this orientation in homosexual activity is a morally acceptable option. It is not.
Wonder if the Lord shares this horrific opinion? Is the One who made us capable of creating imperfection?
ReplyDeleteIf you're suggesting God creates us homosexual I think you probably need to do a good bit more reading. Just look around, there's plenty of imperfection in the world. It is our choice what we do with our appetites. It is the choice that is good or evil, how we choose to live that matters.
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